Date: 2010-03-24 12:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thehopeofdawn.livejournal.com
Hee, that icon.


I'm just...worried, God. Forget party politics, I'm worried about politicians at large.

Date: 2010-03-24 05:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] okroginator.livejournal.com
It is really concerning to me. I mean, I don't feel like people who hold conservative points of view are necessarily wrong, but. just. the things these politicians have been doing are terrifying.

Date: 2010-03-24 12:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thehopeofdawn.livejournal.com
I think the things both sides have been doing are pretty terrifying, frankly, but I am old and cynical and do not believe it when politicians tell me they're going to fix things and know exactly how.

Ah, that would explain the cone of shame icon.

Date: 2010-03-24 02:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ironyaficionado.livejournal.com
At them, dear. At them.

/hugs of reassurance and revoking of cone of shame

Thank you for posting a link that will leave me entertained for days to come, especially given that my parents have been in continual sigh mode over the fact that "the kids are going to have to pay for it."

Date: 2010-03-24 07:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tsukara.livejournal.com
Beautiful--except you know the people who actually need to read this will take one look and go 'tl;dr' because it's not full of flashing sirens and pithy sound bites. And it, y'know, makes sense too, there's that.

Date: 2010-03-24 07:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] okroginator.livejournal.com
It makes sense. I mean, the article has its weaknesses, I'm not going to deny, but it should at least raise some questions. If anything, it raises more questions to me about the state of our elected officials themselves than on the viewpoints they espouse anymore, especially with the flip-flopping examples.

Date: 2010-03-24 01:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] digthenym.livejournal.com
The only thing that bothers me about the article, and I'm saying this as a liberal, left-wing, Obama-voting democrat, is that it's very one-sided and almost condescending to Conservatives as a whole. Granted, I'm assuming the author of this was liberal, and was only trying to get his views across and not the collective whole's, but it's important to remember that the Democrats have screwed up just as much as the Republicans.

Date: 2010-03-24 06:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thehopeofdawn.livejournal.com
Thank you, you have just articulated what was bothering me so much about this article.

Date: 2010-03-24 07:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] digthenym.livejournal.com
You are most certainly welcome! I'm a pretty strong supporter of the belief that what's going to ruin this country is the fact that very few officials can set aside partisan politics to see the bigger picture.

Date: 2010-03-24 07:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thehopeofdawn.livejournal.com
Basically. Also that politicians care more about covering for themselves than, y'know, what's actually good for the people.

Date: 2010-03-24 08:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] digthenym.livejournal.com
Agreed. We seriously just need to overhaul the entire system :/

Date: 2010-03-24 08:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thehopeofdawn.livejournal.com
/loves on that icon.

See, what worries me most is that people seem to be getting really, really caught up in the idea that one side is always right and the other is an evil dragon that we must slay and, just. No. Imo really supporting a party involves questioning everything, because that's the only way to improve and to keep it on the right track.

Date: 2010-03-24 07:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] okroginator.livejournal.com
It is. I didn't like that at the end of the whole thing, he refused to cite liberal examples, saying we weren't as wingnutty. Um, yes, liberals have examples that are just as bad. PETA, for one.

Date: 2010-03-24 07:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] digthenym.livejournal.com
Yeah, it seems to imply that liberals CAN'T be racist, sexist, incompetant, afraid, etc etc which makes me want to hit my head against the table seeing as registering as a democrat does not make you a magical political unicorn of peace and nurture.

ROFL oh PETA. God. They have RUINED things for us vegetarians. RUINED.


and on a completely unrelated note I AM UP TO CHAPTER 20 IN POKEMON SPECIAL :D

Date: 2010-03-24 07:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] okroginator.livejournal.com
DO YOU MEAN

TO SAY THAT

I'M NOT A MAGICAL POLITICAL UNICORN?


;~~~~~~;

Date: 2010-03-24 07:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] digthenym.livejournal.com
YOU GOSHDARNED LIBERALS AND YOUR UNICORNS AND YOUR ACOUSTIC FOLK ROCK AND YOUR TOFU AND YOUR BIRKENSTOCKS AND YOUR BIODEGRADABLE BIODEGRADABLES AND YOUR OBAMAS AND YOUR WOODSTOCK AND YOUR HEALTH CARE AND YOUR HEALTH CARE FOR OLD PEOPLE AND YOUR WELFARE AND YOUR SOCIAL SECURITY AND YOUR HYPNOTIC EYES AND YOUR PONCHOS AND YOUR GAYS AND YOUR RAINBOWS AND YOUR ETHNICS AND YOUR ETHICS AND YOUR BABIES AND YOUR READING AND YOUR LEARNINGS AND YOUR PUBLIC EDUCATIONS AND YOUR JOY AND YOUR BLOGS AND YOUR HATING OF MORALS AND YOUR JESUS HORSES AND YOUR MONKEYS AND YOUR MONKEYS BECOMING HUMANS AND YOUR SERMONS AND YOUR GODLESS SERMONS AND YOUR FISH AND YOUR CHIPS AND YOUR MERCURY LEVELS AND YOUR USE OF THE WORD 'ERGO' AND YOUR OSLO WHATEVERS AND YOUR COMMUNES AND YOUR BURLAP AND YOUR REPLANTING TREES AND YOUR RECYCLING-

-AND YOUR GOSHDARNED JIGGLYPUFFS WITH FOREIGN MADE GUNS THAT ARE PROBABLY REGISTERED SOMEWHERE

Date: 2010-03-24 07:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] okroginator.livejournal.com
y-your jigglypuff is scary ;;


HAVE SOME DELISHUS MAGIKARP

Date: 2010-03-24 08:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] digthenym.livejournal.com
rofl omg I know |D that icon terrifies me SO DOES THIS ONE.

OMG RANDOM I AM A VEGETARIAN

DELICATE SENSIBILITIES: /TARNISHED

Date: 2010-03-24 08:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] digthenym.livejournal.com
/HIGH-FIVES!

Also akdjslajsdka Yellow why so cute?

/spams Random's inbox into forever

Date: 2010-03-24 08:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thehopeofdawn.livejournal.com
:O Yay!

IKR. She's so adorable. >:

Date: 2010-03-24 03:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tafkae.livejournal.com
I don't have time to read it all, but I'd like to comment that most of this guy's sources are just other people's opinion blogs. (Or the New York Times (basically the same thing))

Date: 2010-03-24 07:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] okroginator.livejournal.com
You have a point. (although I might not agree about the New York Times) There's also the fact that he refused to cite liberal examples for a non-reason, which raised some warning flags to me.

On the other hand, I'm more worried about some of the examples of flip-flopping politicians than anything. On any side, flip-flopping bugs me. If you're going to have a viewpoint stick with it. I'd rather have a conservative congressperson who sticks to hir platform than a conservative congressperson who changes what s/he votes for at the drop of a hat just to stay in office.


Also, have a picture of a puppy:

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